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PvPpro
Posts : 21 Join date : 2012-01-12 Age : 33 Location : Russia
| Subject: The big request Fri Jan 13, 2012 4:08 am | |
| Give us please ability to add harmony options to socket items.
Without that we can't achive ideal protection. | |
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Pr3datorPL Senior
Posts : 50 Join date : 2012-01-11 Location : London
| Subject: Re: The big request Fri Jan 13, 2012 4:27 am | |
| - PvPpro wrote:
- Give us please ability to add harmony options to socket items.
Without that we can't achive ideal protection. I think its a good idea | |
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Kielbasa
Posts : 15 Join date : 2012-01-11 Age : 29 Location : London
| Subject: Re: The big request Fri Jan 13, 2012 4:35 am | |
| When you have a full option set(+ shield and rings) you already have 32% Damage reduction If you add a yellow option to that you can achieve 74% damage reduction(which is enough already) If you add the yellow option to a fulloption socket set what do you think will happen ? Over 100% damage reduction, basically god mode. It is not gonna be just you who makes that kind of set everyone would make the same thing, thus everyone would have a godmode set in which they dont take damage, so how do you expect to PvP? I don't think you want that you would like that | |
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PvPpro
Posts : 21 Join date : 2012-01-12 Age : 33 Location : Russia
| Subject: Re: The big request Fri Jan 13, 2012 4:46 am | |
| - Kielbasa wrote:
- When you have a full option set(+ shield and rings) you already have 32% Damage reduction
If you add a yellow option to that you can achieve 74% damage reduction(which is enough already) If you add the yellow option to a fulloption socket set what do you think will happen ? Over 100% damage reduction, basically god mode.
It is not gonna be just you who makes that kind of set everyone would make the same thing, thus everyone would have a godmode set in which they dont take damage, so how do you expect to PvP?
I don't think you want that you would like that You dont understand PvP system. At 100% dd you will receive all the same damage, and it will be thus more interesting to participate in duels, for example BM will beat a combo approximately on 4000 people which have 100% dd. Now BM can kill all from one punch, without combo | |
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Kielbasa
Posts : 15 Join date : 2012-01-11 Age : 29 Location : London
| Subject: Re: The big request Fri Jan 13, 2012 5:07 am | |
| I don't understand what you are trying to say. You mean that damage decrease does nothing? If so tell me the difference between a normal FO set and a set with 100% dd | |
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PvPpro
Posts : 21 Join date : 2012-01-12 Age : 33 Location : Russia
| Subject: Re: The big request Fri Jan 13, 2012 5:34 am | |
| - Kielbasa wrote:
- I don't understand what you are trying to say.
You mean that damage decrease does nothing? If so tell me the difference between a normal FO set and a set with 100% dd Example i have two sets with the same defence. First is without DD. Second have 98% DD (6 harmony options 6x7=42%, 8 FO items 8x4=32%, and have in 4 items 3 lvl seed on Damage reduction 4x6=24%) In 1 set) For example u atck me on 16343 with excelent damage. => In 2 set) 16343*(1-0,42)*(1-0,32)*(1-0,24)=16343*~0,3=4902 But u know that damage can be much more... P.S. i don't advice u to collect more than 100% DD
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Kielbasa
Posts : 15 Join date : 2012-01-11 Age : 29 Location : London
| Subject: Re: The big request Fri Jan 13, 2012 6:48 am | |
| - PvPpro wrote:
- Kielbasa wrote:
- I don't understand what you are trying to say.
You mean that damage decrease does nothing? If so tell me the difference between a normal FO set and a set with 100% dd Example i have two sets with the same defence. First is without DD. Second have 98% DD (6 harmony options 6x7=42%, 8 FO items 8x4=32%, and you have in 4 items 3 lvl seed on Damage reduction 4x6=24%)
In 1 set) For example u atck me on 16343 with excelent damage. => In 2 set) 16343*(1-0,42)*(1-0,32)*(1-0,24)=16343*~0,3=4902
But u know that damage can be much more...
P.S. i don't advice u to collect more than 100% DD Alright I understand what you mean, you are saying that it has a cummulative effect Lets use maths because I see we understand eachother better this way I thought that 98% damage decrease would work this way . 16343*(1-0.42-0.32-0.24)= 326.86 however as you say it is like this 16343*(1-0,42)*(1-0,32)*(1-0,24)= 4902 I understand what you are saying, But I still think that having a yellow option in socket sets would not be very good because people would be too strong. | |
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PvPpro
Posts : 21 Join date : 2012-01-12 Age : 33 Location : Russia
| Subject: Re: The big request Fri Jan 13, 2012 8:58 am | |
| - Kielbasa wrote:
- PvPpro wrote:
- Kielbasa wrote:
- I don't understand what you are trying to say.
You mean that damage decrease does nothing? If so tell me the difference between a normal FO set and a set with 100% dd Example i have two sets with the same defence. First is without DD. Second have 98% DD (6 harmony options 6x7=42%, 8 FO items 8x4=32%, and you have in 4 items 3 lvl seed on Damage reduction 4x6=24%)
In 1 set) For example u atck me on 16343 with excelent damage. => In 2 set) 16343*(1-0,42)*(1-0,32)*(1-0,24)=16343*~0,3=4902
But u know that damage can be much more...
P.S. i don't advice u to collect more than 100% DD Alright I understand what you mean, you are saying that it has a cummulative effect Lets use maths because I see we understand eachother better this way I thought that 98% damage decrease would work this way . 16343*(1-0.42-0.32-0.24)=326.86 however as you say it is like this 16343*(1-0,42)*(1-0,32)*(1-0,24)=4902 I understand what you are saying, But I still think that having a yellow option in socket sets would not be very good because people would be too strong. People would be too strong??? People now are too strong. Today BM kill me for one punch (i have 315k hp and 34%DD). When i wil be have 100%,i'l recive 91935 damage, yes i will be strong, but for that i play many time here, to get stronger. Or you dont thing so? P.S. For you is interesting that BM kill each and all for one punch? How long ago you used combo in PvP? P.S.S. Big importance plays defence but not now . How I say before, it will be more funny to play with harmony. P.S.S.S. I can show (in PM) video with PVP 2 BM on full stats (65k) and with 100% DD. | |
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Kielbasa
Posts : 15 Join date : 2012-01-11 Age : 29 Location : London
| Subject: Re: The big request Fri Jan 13, 2012 3:26 pm | |
| - PvPpro wrote:
People would be too strong??? People now are too strong. Today BM kill me for one punch (i have 315k hp and 34%DD). When i wil be have 100%,i'l recive 91935 damage, yes i will be strong, but for that i play many time here, to get stronger. Or you dont thing so?
P.S. For you is interesting that BM kill each and all for one punch? How long ago you used combo in PvP? P.S.S. Big importance plays defence but not now . How I say before, it will be more funny to play with harmony. P.S.S.S. I can show (in PM) video with PVP 2 BM on full stats (65k) and with 100% DD. Well if you die in 1 hit, that means you just need to think a little bit more, how to not die with 1 hit like me or Pr3datorPL ; ) | |
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PvPpro
Posts : 21 Join date : 2012-01-12 Age : 33 Location : Russia
| Subject: Re: The big request Fri Jan 13, 2012 9:13 pm | |
| - Kielbasa wrote:
- PvPpro wrote:
People would be too strong??? People now are too strong. Today BM kill me for one punch (i have 315k hp and 34%DD). When i wil be have 100%,i'l recive 91935 damage, yes i will be strong, but for that i play many time here, to get stronger. Or you dont thing so?
P.S. For you is interesting that BM kill each and all for one punch? How long ago you used combo in PvP? P.S.S. Big importance plays defence but not now . How I say before, it will be more funny to play with harmony. P.S.S.S. I can show (in PM) video with PVP 2 BM on full stats (65k) and with 100% DD. Well if you die in 1 hit, that means you just need to think a little bit more, how to not die with 1 hit like me or Pr3datorPL ; )
You are able to read? Stop offtop. P.S. It was only test. I know how not to die with 1 hit, but need to fix my skill Ice Arrow for this purpose,and to add ability to add harmony options to the socket items. | |
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Cuddley Moderator
Posts : 87 Join date : 2012-01-09
| Subject: Re: The big request Fri Jan 13, 2012 9:53 pm | |
| - Pr3datorPL wrote:
- PvPpro wrote:
- Give us please ability to add harmony options to socket items.
Without that we can't achive ideal protection. I think its a good idea i think this may be imbalance if we could add yellow option to with socket items. | |
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PvPpro
Posts : 21 Join date : 2012-01-12 Age : 33 Location : Russia
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Cuddley Moderator
Posts : 87 Join date : 2012-01-09
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PvPpro
Posts : 21 Join date : 2012-01-12 Age : 33 Location : Russia
| Subject: Re: The big request Sun Jan 15, 2012 9:58 am | |
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PapaGod
Posts : 8 Join date : 2012-01-14
| Subject: Re: The big request Mon Jan 16, 2012 12:35 am | |
| i kinda agree on this.. not only BKs are Overpowered.. even DLs too.. and BKs can do 1 hit ko on elves with full EE buffs while doing sd recovery skills.. def is dramatically low while attk is really high..
its either add the yellow opts,lower the dmg rate or raise the def rate.. | |
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